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Originally Posted by Flandry View Post
I have a CS degree; it's ten years back and honestly i don't see that anyone should feel a lack of such puts them at a real disadvantage. More than any other field, the resources to learn the relevant material are all available online and the pace of change makes recent practical experience far more important than distant academic experience IMO.

On the subject of Qt: i started a project and ran into problems with the repo (Qt binding for poppler) that prevented me from getting it into the repo. When PR1.2 came along and failed to resolve the issue with the broken repo, i started on the project again only to find that the app would no longer build (presumably due to messing with qmake or something in PR1.2 SDK) so, while i was fairly impressed with my first day with Qt, the rough edges on Maemo/Qt have about bled my enthusiasm to death.

Edit: I meant to make this whine somehow constructive by saying that i would appreciate a single wiki that describes Qt on Maemo in purely a PR1.2/Qt6.2 context so there's no ambiguity, and also an answer to the question of why armel/x86 packages depending on the exact same library will claim it is missing/available respectively.
This^ is an example of what we could be doing now to provide a legacy for Maemo the organization and the community.

I am not a programmer nor a commercial developer but it sounds like a "wiki that describes Qt on Maemo in purely a PR1.2/Qt6.2 context so there's no ambiguity" would be dang useful for me eventually.

What attracted me and has kept my interest in Maemo is that I realized that no one knows what I need and how I use my device everyday better than me. I understood early on that I would have to develop my own dang apps or modify the appearance and presentation of information from existing apps so that they work best for me.

With the introduction of the N900 Maemo attracted a lot more people like me. If they haven't already, these folks soon may come to the same realizations as me.

But enough about me.

The legacy I am hoping Maemo provides is that it was the first of its kind with regard to this.

However, to do my thing I didn't need to dedicate a machine to a completely different OS than what I was using. I didn't need to learn that new OS, syntax, methods, and features from the ground up, I didn't need to learn what fatalsaint best summarizes here >> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=27

...In order to develop or modify apps that were only being used by me.

What I needed was to learn a simple, easy to set up, and effective way to SSH into my device from my Windows machine. Until a method was first posted here in this forum, I would not have found it (or one for Mac for that matter) in any maemo.org documents.

After that, until I found simple working examples like thp's
Code:
superfly.desktop
or Nokia's own
Code:
ovi.desktop
by mucking about, I couldn't enjoy the ability of launching my own pages or sites via my own dang shortcut and icon by simply changing strings and renaning files

Earlier I said "eventually". I said that because I find my self doing, and as a result learning, more and more each day because someone planted those seeds.

I followed qole down this rabbit hole and until my N810 & N900 die a natural death I will be doing my best to make it easier for others to follow me.

Imagine if just a small percentage of the members enthusiastically contributing to the 1000 + posts in this thread >> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39565

...simply because they now know how to connect to all of their devices directories and edit files from whatever desktop OS they use... imagine if they continued down that rabbit hole.

I'm bettin' that most are more talented, younger, and even better looking than me and once in, would be motivated to provide even more information to even more enthusiastic potential developers.

Information like Flandry mentions will be needed by them.
More seeds also need to be planted by people like us. Much broader information still needs to be provided.

Now eventually they may come to the same conclusions that you all have but, wouldn't you now have more voices?

Wouldn't maemo.org then be providing MeeGo with more engaged users once they eventually decide to upgrade?

As long as Nokia keeps funding maemo.org they haven't abandoned Maemo. As long as we continue to work with maemo.org we haven't either.

maemo.org's value to MeeGo is the amount of engaged users it eventually provides.

Maemo's legacy could simply be that it opened the door to actualy controlling our mobile worlds.
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