Which is rather sad; Nokia apparently can't seem to market well outside of Europe,
Which is rather sad; Nokia apparently can't seem to market well outside of Europe.

Now such a statement just cannot go unchallenged for its sheer demonstration of insularity. (Unless you think that 'Europe' is that big bit outside the US)

38 million symbian phones shipped from April to June 07. Nokia sold 100 million phones worldwide in q2 worldwide. Thats in 3 months fanboys. Compare that to Apple aiming to sell a paltry 10 million iphones in the first YEAR. Compare that to 40 million ipods sold EVER. We are talking different leagues here people.

BTW Europe is now only Nokias 4th biggest market, after China, India and the USA.

All Apple have really achieved with the iphone was to fragment the American market even further (with blackberry, win mobile, palm and apple slugging it out in the USA for 5% of the worlds population, Nokia are their symbian partners have been quietly wrapping up the rest of the world.)