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Originally Posted by Crashdamage View Post
Android is less open and a less capable OS. I'd think that as a hacker you'd be much more interested in working with a full-stack Linux, open OS like MeeGo than a Linux/Davlik hybrid. And MeeGo will need contributors like you to succeed.

Edit: Agree 100% that Nokia should make a clear statement regarding the ability to opt-out of data collection, regsitrations, etc.
These two paragraphs appear to be in some confused conflict with each other. The first tries to convince me that Maemo/MeeGo is (will be?) more open than Maemo was and much more open than Android--yet it's closed in pretty much all the same ways and places as Android and Maemo (drivers, mainly, and a bunch of apps). The other tries to convince me that Nokia WAS less than open by sneaking in some closed-source that reported personal information. Hell--even Google at least TELLS you they're reporting personal information before they do it.

Originally Posted by Crashdamage View Post
There aren't. And it does not qualify as a virus at all.
You're right. It's a trojan.

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Really? Android is your answer for a more open, more customer friendly and generally less evil platform?

Nokia does many things we may not like, unfortunately Maemo is still the best we've got in the market as far as open values and freedom goes. . . .
Explain to me how Android is effectively any less open than Nokia's implementations of Maemo and MeeGo. Near as I can tell, they both hide source code for drivers and apps in all the most critical places for either community to be able to maintain their own OS and fix bugs themselves, depending on the corporation to release fixes and trusting them not to put something surreptitious like Nokia did into the code.

Maemo isn't the best we've got the in the market as far as open values and freedom. It's openness theater. Worse, Maemo isn't even in the market anymore.
 

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