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Originally Posted by ndi View Post
Actually, I am a 20-year old coder (years coding, not years total). However, I'm a Pascal fan (Delphi) and I primarily code for Windows. The little I dipped into Linux I did solely as to understand how to port network layer.

This gives me some oddball perspective. I am well aware of the advantages of coding for a successful, wide app and developer base, but closed system...

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Nope. Google got me:
* free email,
* free online storage,
* decent security
* Maps I use
* Earth I very much like,
* Sketchup I used to design my house,
* always has beta features,
* Image search (anti-scraper techniques pushed me to Bing),
* News,
* Code,
* Translate,
* Free POP access,
* Picasa (storage only),
* Chat,
* audio link for free,
* video link for free,
* Latitude,
* 3D Warehouse,
* SideWiki,
* Reader,
* free online office for non-secure work,
* online virus scan,
* online PDF,
* caches pages.

For that list, I'd buy a SIM and give them that number. They saved me tons of money and continue to do so.

Let's look at Nokia's offer:

* OVI, with its unproven security, video resizing, small storage features
* a repository that's technically a requirement for operating a Linux device
* 4 free desktop wallpapers
* 8 free games some of which people curse at, while free. Like backgammon that eats pieces. And that Globe/candle stuff, since we need that kind of applications, we ran out of actually useful ideas.

For that list, they get my eternal scorn.

Don't you think I realize they index my email (G)? I gave them that right when I enabled the spam filter that, by nature, scans emails. So what. Do you think they'll steal my phone number and send me "information"? No. There are laws in place. All they index must be deleted in 6-9 months. So they target ads. What's what AdBlock Plus is for. And Element Hiding Helper.

Facebook says plain and simple in their warning: Warning, everything you post is bloody public.

I am WELL AWARE that things that leave my computer towards the internet are exposed to a risk. You know what? I know that, so everything that leaves my PC is open or encrypted to hell. Things you send through the net is stuff you can afford to lose.

There is a difference between giving away info and stealing it. Nokia stole it. It asked for it when I registered at OVI. I refused. They took it anyway.
That^ is the best Quid pro quo rationale I have ever seen regarding Google.

The problem that Nokia has in all this is that after a user ante's in their "Quid", what exactly is the "pro quo".

For many it had been hope. I think that is what benny1967 has been articulating in this thread.

Some have "Hoped" that our involvement so far with NIT's would yield a "pro quo" that would benefit us all.

Official responses like this from Nokia not only stomp on that "hope" but indicate that we may have been delusional with regards to this in the past.

Fides, Spes et Caritas...
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