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Originally Posted by Mark S View Post
I hate to say it, but anyone who thinks this new Apple device will not kill the N800 is totally, completely wrong!
I'll bet you Texrat's paycheck you're wrong.

Originally Posted by Mark S View Post
Most users here are the hacker and enthusiast types.
That's why we own N800s/N770s.

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I am not. I am Mr. Average Consumer.
Then Nokia's current lineupof the N770 and N800 isn't for you.

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I have owned an N779 and a N800
Translation: I forgot to do basic research on these devices and found out the hard way they aren't for me. Buyer's remorse I guess.

Originally Posted by Mark S View Post
and would buy the Apple device instead of a NIT because even though the N800 theoretically can do more than the Apple, in reality for Mr. Average Consumer the N800 cannot do much at all and doesn't even do things it is supposed to be good at perfectly.
Web browsing is pretty much excellent, made even better with the latest firmware, and even "mo' better" with the microb beta browser.
The email client sucks though.

Originally Posted by Mark S View Post
Plus, no pda functions, no MS Word compatible word processor, no citrix, no real email.
You mean the same things the iPod Touch lacks? You want Citrix for the N800/N770 then go talk to Citrix since it's NOT an open-source program.
If it were you can bet your bottom dollar that someone would have already ported it to the Nokia ITs by now.

Originally Posted by Mark S View Post
I know everyone always says that is not what the N800 was "meant" for and that it is an Internet Tablet,
About time you got something right in your post.

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well guess what folks -Apple's device is going to kick the sh*t out of the N800 as far as browsing is concerned.
Oh really? This being the same Safari-based browser that the iPhone has?
You know, the one WITHOUT Flash and the one that doesn't have the screen size or resolution of the N800?
Sorry, but that's a laughabl statement at best.

Originally Posted by Mark S View Post
Oh and using a cell phone with the N800 is no simple task, plus is dog slow so the mobility is not a real advantage for the N800.
Several people have already proven you worng on that point.
And browsing with the N800 via BT through my N95 in Europe on a 3G connection it's pretty damn fast. As fast as browsing on wi-fi for me.

Originally Posted by Mark S View Post
If Nokia wanted the NIT to survive it needed to make it into something that would really have differentiated it from the Apple device.
They did. They gave it Skype and VoIP capabilities, Flash 9 support, and not one but TWO web browsers (Opera and one based on Mozilla code). Then they went and made just about the whole thing open-source and provided a free SDK for it. They also gave it Bluetooth which can be "hacked" to provide the missing A2DP support presently missing in every Apple product to date.
They also gave it a free built-in FM radio.

Originally Posted by Mark S View Post
Nokia will not be able to sell anymore IT devices after the Apple device hits the shelves. R.I.P. N800! It is over.
Can I borrow your time machine? Or at least get the name of your dealer for whatever you're smoking.

Originally Posted by Mark S View Post
p.s. The Newton was the best pda ever made, but it died because it was ahead of its time and could not keep up.
While I wholeheartedly agree about the Newton being one of the best PDAs ever made (the 2100 rocks!) it didn't "die". Steve Jobs killed it. Matter of fact, there are still plenty of Newton User Groups out there and - get this - they even hold MEETINGS and CONS! Someone even went and made a Newton OS emulator that - gasp - runs on the N800! Something else the iPod Touch and iPhone can't do.
On my N800 I'm running both Palm OS and Newton OS. That's three different "operating systems" on one small handheld device. I'm not seeing any current handheld devices from Apple that claim the same.

The main problem with the N800 is Nokia's absolute LACK of advertising for it on U.S. shores, pathetic marketing for it across the globe, and their overall pi$$-poor marketing in North America period.
Two "flagship" stores does not a hit make.

How is the iPod Touch going to "kill" a product no one in the U.S. has heard about and never bought in real numbers anyway?
That's the equivalent of saying that a tiny micro-meteorite hitting the moon will kill off the N800.