Thread: [Council] Nokia response to MyNokia subscription in PR1.2
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2010-07-01 , 21:42
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Open is about more than code, it's about governance, philosophy, core values, hardware, carrier lock-ins, who the manufacturer is pandering to, etc., etc.

So, no Android isn't even close to Maemo.
If the code (the whole POINT of the rest of that process you've described) is closed, then how do you trust the rest? Isn't that the very BASIS of open-source? Open code is the very CORE of open-source. You don't have open-source by simply saying that your governance and values are open-source... you have to actually open the source code because the rest is suspect without the ability to review the open product's source code and have the opportunity to vette it.

Good God, man! I'll repeat it again: The basis of OPEN-SOURCE is the SOURCE code being OPEN to anyone. There's no open-source just because you SAY you're so very open in every OTHER way.

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
It is. By far. It's the only one you don't have to jump through hoops to root and keep rooted. That says a lot.
Not really. It doesn't say a lot when my product becomes orphaned because even the community can't maintain the product. I'd rather root all these new Android phones and stick a community maintained distribution of Android on it than stay stuck with a Nokia device I can't even get a new community maintained OS for.

Originally Posted by fpp View Post
For me, much as I dislike this MyNokia debacle, it is more a matter of form than function, and doesn't compare with the "kill switch" (and potential remote install) as found in Android and i(Phone)OS.

I wouldn't accept that on my Pcs, and not on my mobile devices either
I'll bet you wouldn't tolerate your computer silently sending out an SMS message on your cellular carrier behind your back--especially if you were paying for it, and especially if you end up getting spammed with unwanted SMS messages later. WHEW... good thing you went with the SO-VERY-OPEN Nokia Maemo platform.

Honestly, given Nokia's slipped in closed-source on the N900, how do you know it doesn't have a silent remote kill and remote install?

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Oh, we're stooping to unsubstantiated hearsay here now?
Because there's NEVER been any reason to suspect Nokia might do something surreptitious? No proof of something else, sure--but to claim there's no substance to at least be SUSPICIOUS? It's not as if you EVER could trust any closed portions of code--but now there's corroborating evidence to illustrate it--thanks to Nokia, no less.
 

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