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2007-09-06 , 20:14
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Originally Posted by E-ville View Post
The thing o remember here is hackers are totaly attracted to the iphone and now the touch , its sexy and a challange, like the psp.. hackers are going to do things with these two products that apple never even thought of doing... the hackers are going to make these into a very very attactive device for all us n800 users.
That's nice. I'd rather have more real programmers attracted to the N800 - like they currently are - than "hackers" with sloppy code practices.
And look at all those PSP "hackers": 99% of them do nothing more than create a theme, build something in pathetic LUA code, or do a silly/stupid modification to code someone ELSE has already done (i.e. "custom firmwares"). You can count on ONE HAND the number of true PSP programmers.
Don't you dare compare the pathetic circus the PSP programming "scene" has become with what is happening with Nokia's Internet Tablets.
The two cultures, users, and market couldn't be more different.

Originally Posted by E-ville View Post
look at the psp hackng scene, you have a smaller genera there and have pepole diong stuff with a totally locked product that are unbelievable..sony fights them every step of the way and the hackers always overcome them.
THe PSP "hacking scene" as you call it has a nice open-source SDK for it and lots of homebrew developer support to surmount any serious issues that programmers run into.
So does the N770/N800.
The iPhone/iPod Touch does NOT. And a future firmware update to those devices in the future could possibly (probably) break any "hacked" software made to run on them.

Originally Posted by E-ville View Post
Apple knew these would be prime argets for hackers and I bet there counting on it to propell ther device to new levels.
Any company who depends upon "hackers" anything to "propel" their device to new levels doesn't deserve to be in business because it would show they have no fcuking clue how to run a business.
Apple - like Sony if you look deep enough - gives two *****s about your so-called "hackers". Sales matter, period, and "hackers" anything does NOT sell a goddamn thing in the business world.
Functionality and ease-of-use right out of the box do.

You want an example? Fine. The GP2X series of handheld devices have paltry sales numbers yet they are marketed as good for "hackers" and based upon open-source. Problem is, the hardware they went with is pathetic and they haven't figured out yet to throw wi-fi and bluetooth on the damn things.
Now, the same could be said of the N800 but the N800 has at least three things the GP2X doesn't: better word-of-mouth and reviews in the press, better hardware, and better battery-life.

Seriously, with some of the comments I've seen in here lately looks like some of you need to either go to school or go back to school because a lot of you don't know the first damn thing about Basic Business 101.