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Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
We have seen dramatic increase in mobile hardware in the last 2 years. If you asked someone (even a dev) 2 years ago if N64 would work on a phone they'd just laugh
Then with all due respect to the said dev, they are lacking perspective. Look at those speeds up there. With ARM being roughly one-on-one as computing power per MHz with x86, I dare say it's ready to be upgraded.

Sure x86 isn't power efficient, but many of us just want a full day out of the device, and by full day I mean 9 to 18, that's 9 hours. As for power, trust me, 600 MHz is nough to run XP if you forgo the eye candy. I have compact PCs that run XP on a Geode at 500 MHz and, while gaming isn't great, it fulfills its role as a viable PC, with full-on browsing, Office, minigames, installable software and an app base the size of China.

And if the fact that mobile phones (tablets, whatever, as long as they fit a pocket can can make calls) are only growing better isn't a mystery. Preparations are in order.

Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
What MeeGo is doing is paving the way for tomorrow, not focussing on today.
What exactly are they paving? Portable Linux is Linux slimmed down, not the other way around. As power grows, it will be slimmed down even less. effectively reversing what MeeGo does. I can't see this future thing you speak of.

Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
Just like how Apple came to be, they just did what others did (Apps, UI) in a better package and stole WinMobile's market ...
Apple came to be quite a while ago. If you mean iOS, then they had a few (huge) advantages:

a) iOS only runs on their devices, that is one device (at first) No drivers, no misc hardware, no scalable interface.

b) No baggage. Not backwards compatible, no app base or devel base to ruin, no expectations to break. At that time, it was a brand new rewrite. Nobody else has rewritten at this scale since. They are all rip-offs of other work.

c) New design. All other OSs are hereditary. They inherit strengths and weaknesses of previous OSs. Maemo is bound by Debian guidelines, with strength and weakness. WinMo was slimmed from Windows and was bound by it.

d) No disappointment, no expectations, no comparison. It Just Worked, and once people liked it, they started adding. MeeGo doesn't have the luxury to not fully implement bluetooth.

Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
Against Apple, it must show that MeeGo is sexy
That's nice, but unattainable. You can't out-sexy Apple devices because they were built in reverse from style up.

Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
Once they really polish the whole package (software/hardware), demonstate its advantages (against Android) and give it an equal sex-appeal it will sell.
Let's just say easier said than done. That's your plan, out-sexy the Apple, out-feature Android and out-support WinMo? If they could do ANY of that we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
We may even find those first-gen netbooks (replace XP/Ubuntu) useful.
I have no idea what Ubuntu users will do, but there's no way in hell you can displace XP while offering no Office (easydebian is not MeeGo and OOo for Arm is no MS Office x86) , no commercial apps (all 4 of them), no app base (compared), an everchanging UI and an Alpha software. XP is closing on 10 years. If it's been writtten it either runs on XP or has a clone onto it.

I have no idea how anyone thinks this will work. If it would, Debian (since it's full) would be displacing XP (also full) and it's not really how it goes.

And finally, even of MeeGo has the magical fairy dust needed to push away Android, iOS (which is wishful thinking with their dedicated hardware base) and even WinMo, let's not forget that while MeeGo is pushed halfheartedly by Nokia, the rest are pushed full-heartedly by even bigger players. I doubt Nokia has the horsepower, let alone the fact that they seem to be conserving fuel and running several things at once.
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