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Originally Posted by acvetkov View Post
Now read carefull what you write. BlueZ and xorgso modifications from a telephone vendor? Aww thats bad. They use their software for the basic functions? Hm thats strange too... can`t believe they didn`t let us see their property application source code.

Compare that to re-written libc and java UI... locks to provider, need to root to gain full access (kinda of) and no native linux applications...

Sorry I don`t see any valid comparison here. But I see you point which is not accurate - you think when someone is selling device with linux it should be fully open. Nokia cares about money. Maemo/MeeGo cares about openess. N900 is between them openess with property software from Nokia. So this is no way near Android closed and unfriendly for hacking envoriement.
Sorry, I simply don't agree that putting up closed walls around open-source makes it "more open." You still suffer from depending on the flash image given to you by the vendor and you can't install the OS you wanted. If you decide you want to install a fully opened OS and didn't want the vendor's garbage (spyware like Nokia's SMS message debacle, for example) you can't choose NOT to get it if THAT firmware image (one with those closed drivers and apps) are the only ones that will flash and then run properly. Had we ONLY been talking about loading closed applications inside of an open OS, it'd be a different thing than the lock-in to drivers and apps you have no say in.

Maemo and Android are both Linux based operating systems that corrupted the whole intent and benefit of open-source and the GPL. Seems very similar to me.

I still hope that MeeGo changes this--but with Nokia's history so far, I'm feeling pessimistic.