Hey, don't want to take it OT (!), but I think I do need to back up my statement. Perform the following test over 24 hours: 1. Use an N97 2. Use an iPhone 3GS (it's direct competitor) 3. Use a G1 (another direct competitor, perhaps a bit older) Tell me what you think. Yes the hardware is different, but still the differences can be seen. Symbian just has a look and feel that is out of date. Fair point re: "KDE looks out of date therefore Linux is out of date" - it's not the best logic path. Remember on phones though that UI is a large proportion of the function; certainly larger than desktop OSs or server systems.