Oh please, just read the respective websites:

www.apple.com/ipodtouch:

• Music, videos, photos and websites....

www.nokia.com/N800:

• Easy access to web

• Wi-fi connectivity

• Internet Calling with web camera

• Enjoy music and video

• Instant messaging & email

Ignoring the Internet calling, both lists amount to the same thing. IM & email are widely available as web apps so let's not split hairs on that point.

It's not a case of what any of us think they are, it's what the manufacturers are marketing the devices as.

I'll be honest, I'm a bit disappointed with my N800, it hasn't lived up to my expectations. Just about all the applications I really want it to do are flawed - no, hold on, the FM Radio's neat. However, I am prepared to hang in there and file the bug reports but Nokia should really step up to the mark to support the best of the community developments.