Torpedo.....you'll find that we humans are such a complex being that if our need to find something out is so strong, then we'll pretty much do anything to attain it.......haven't you heard of stories where such innocent ppl killed attackers or thugs.....this is coz when we have an aim....or a goal and if it's soo strong, then u'll b surprised at the things you can do...... Orion 88 Ps: sorry for taking the topic away from the main point !