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Deaconclgi is offline Deaconclgi
2010-07-22 , 20:20
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#405
Originally Posted by RFS-81 View Post
So, what is your solution?

Should new apps be denied from maemo repos until they have been tested with titans kernel? What if the developer is not interested in overclocking and cannot be arsed to do this? His/her (otherwise fine app) will never appear in repos? What if tomorrow we will get a neat unofficial kernel from Paul, and another one from Mary? Apps now need to be tested with all four available kernels before allowing them to repos?

No, that is nonsense -- that kind of control is possible only among components of a closed system. The only sensible way to do it here is the one that was practiced: develop and test with the official kernel, official components. If there are problems with community add-ons, fix them as problems appear, if feasible.
My solution is to:
A: Wait for Titan to modify the kernel
B: Wait for new Fcam drivers that supports Titan's kernel (and others)
C: Reflash to stock and enjoy Fcam

I said that it surprised me that they didn't KNOW about Titans kernel. Not one time did I say that it surprised me that Fcam doesn't work with Titans kernel or that it SHOULD work. I then used an engineering example of what me being surprised felt like. Like designing engines and never driving the cars that they power. A "woa" feeling of I didn't know car X could do this!

You are right about designing applications with official components. I can't agree more. I never questioned that or suggested otherwise.

To make it clear, I would be just as surprised if a developer spent 5 years of development with a target release on the N900 and not know that there is a N64 Emulator, NITDroid or fMMS as these are large projects that have recievedmedia attention beyond TMO. I would think that the people close to the project would have seen, heard, known about high profile N900 projects even if they have nothing to do with them and they don't affect their project development.

That says NOTHING against that devoloper. All I am saying is that I am/would be surprised.

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By the way, I found this on: https://garage.maemo.org/forum/forum...&forum_id=5871


By: Eino-Ville Talvala
RE: Hi everyone [ reply ]
2010-07-22 11:08
Ayodeji,

The message means that our replacement drivers aren't being loaded properly at boot time (and therefore there's no camera device to access).

It's likely a version mismatch problem - the kernel won't load modules that don't match its version string, and Titan's kernel likely has a different version string than the stock one.
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It is great to see open conversation and more information about the conflict. I would expect Titans Kernel to be updated before the Fcam Team updates their drivers. But then again, I could be surprised.
Last edited by Deaconclgi; 2010-07-22 at 20:23.
 

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