great stuff man, very interesting and informative, and much appreciated!

the conclusion I draw from it is quite clear - that the 800 knocks spots off it in every way, bar the one almost everyone on here has spoken of since the release of the 770 - it's the software, stupid.

Apple have done a great job on a sexy, out-of-the-box functionality that makes their (lower res, lower spec) device outshine the second gen NIT.

The fact that I have to use mplayer, with its basic front-end that looks like something from 1994, to play virtually any vid on that lovely 800 quality really sums the whole thing up.