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#240
Originally Posted by hawaii View Post
Thank you for your honesty. I appreciate it and glad my blog and posts were of use to you.

I, personally, have not used the wl12xx driver that allows live frame injection. However, I can safely stake my "reputation" behind my word, that it does exist. I have a sneaking suspicious on who wrote it. And if you doubt the the possibility of its existence - I urge you to take a look at the 50+ RFMON+injection diffs located @ http://patches.aircrack-ng.org/. I can actually remember back in the day when only one chipset had RF monitor mode, specific drivers and tertiary firmware were required to make it work. Now it's stack-controlled and it takes 30 lines of code to allow injection without association. I've been around the block.
If I were a kernel hacker (which I am NOT) I probably wouldn't even have any doubts about the packet injection matter, but I also do remember the not-so-far days when it wasn't possible for wrt54's broadcoms and at least it was still considered unfeasible long after I had switched to atheros platform.

So please understand my concerns after I took that for granted (not really caring if after some longer wait for public release) for the perfect platform I found on N900 and then all this weird situation happens.

I have to thank you again, this time for clearing this out.

I still consider NeoPwn have dealt very wrong with all this situation, but mostly at his cost more than anyone else, which is a pitty considering he probably have already spent a lot of effort on this project.

After failing a big announcement, a negative reaction SHOULD be expected no matter what the cause is, and even more if the excuses sound unreasonable at first instance. Ignoring that, is wanting to feel like the world is against you with no reason, which I think leaves you an even worse feeling than just accepting the LOGICAL reaction and coping with it.

At this point, considering the project is feasible, I would say that any change of approach would be preferable than a dead end, no matter if it means request for specific help, make it commercial app, free with premium paid features, whatever... Sadly, I don't think donations will have any success right now.... perhaps later....

Glad to hear the project is still REALLY alive (which wasn't so clear, as it sounded more as a delayed dead end) and that packet injection will be possible probably more sooner than later. It's more than enough for me.

And again, If there's some help needed I hope NeoPwn isn't afraid of asking even if he decides to make his project somewhat commercial... After seeing what happenned with nessus and still using it, I don't think it really matters at all.
 

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