First of all, appnss, thank you for posting some sense in this thread. I've really appreciated your past couple of comments.

Yes, and this is not something that has changed in the past couple of weeks. You didn't grow a family in 2 weeks, a handful of kids didn't ask for feeding in the past couple of weeks. Guess what, a lot of people here have jobs. I've been traveling the world and then some, yet I'm still following roughly what's what.

Again, if the amount of work is too big, ask for help. There are loads of people here who can help.

Wow wow wow; my moderator-hatted-me is going nuts on this. Don't give us that kind of bollocks mate. There may be people here who are just users, but I know that some of us definitely aren't. I can't speak for the vast majority of users in this thread, but how about you come to the next Maemo Summit (or whatever it's called these days) and have a look at the irc-fueled clique (we know who we are). Every single one of us has written code for Maemo, be it directly or indirectly.

Some are more involved than others, but the truth is, I think a lot of us have a lot more inside knowledge of how projects are managed, executed and written than you do, or even neopwn for that matter (from what we can tell).

Erhm, yes. On the neopwn.com front page. In the same post (or the one before) as the video teasers, it was indicated that a "a beta release of the first BackTrack Mobile operating system for the Nokia N900 [...] will be public shortly before the Blackhat and Defcon conferences in July 2010". This has now been conveniently removed from any of the posts -- shame that Google cache remembers.


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No, he's crying like a small child, trying to find excuses so mummy wouldn't be mad because he broke her vase. 'Fess up. "Step up, or step aside". We're not asking for a finished project, we're asking for a release, no matter how finished. I don't care whether it's alpha and hangs if you stop turning around in counter-clockwise mode with a chicken leg dangling between your teeth. I just want something that shows where we're going, and how we can help.

Quite frankly, I (and I believe most people) don't give a shoot about the distribution. What I want is the driver. Without the driver (or some voodoo that allows for packet injection) the distribution (or any of the tools) is useless. It looks like crap, like script-kiddie-heaven-in-a-box.

As soon as this stuff is released (if it ever is), I'll work with MohammadAG in order to get the driver working without NeoPwn. Then, looking from the options we'll have, I'd like to see either a way to have injection working natively (without the chroot) and then port applications as we go further (and release progressively, in bite-sized chunks).

The last reason, I'm interested in BT Mobile, is that I am by trade a security expert. I have worked for many banks, governments, major telco companies, and I have a wealth of experience when it comes to encryption and penetration testing (check my Maemo or LinkedIn profile for further details).

And the last reason (bis), is that having fun with Bob from Widgets International at the airport is just the cheapest way to have fun, while waiting for delayed trains and flights these days.