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Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
I understand they are dev/alpha releases and things break. I'm a developer, I know this. The point is that at release there: a) was no N900/Arm capability at all.. there was a problem in the kernel or something that delayed it a day.. and b) was obvious that the Moorestown was more complete at that time.
Well, I do agree that Moorestown had more time to fix basic things as many things in MeeGo come from Moblin. I'm not sure what release you're referring to exactly.

If Handset day one, I'll state that I was on vacation at the time, following the chats through a J2ME IRC client, so I don't have the whole picture of what was going on there. Biggest problem with handset day one was that we were going to have this in the middle of the invasive changes period. Guess how difficult that is.

Ok then.. so with the official report from Nokia that the N900 will not be officially supported once MeeGo is stable/finished then how long can we expect to Nokia to maintain and get those proprietary components into community builds of MeeGo for our N900?
I've always understood (and get confirmed several times) that 'support' means that it isn't a Nokia productized OS. If we're looking away from all the shiny bits, it means in practice it won't be a firmware image that has gone through Nokia's extensive process for developing OS'es, roadmapping and updates, QA etc. And no phonecalls to Nokia support about it.

This does not mean no 'supporting' as in no resources thrown after it. This is obvious from anyone looking at how much effort is going into the MeeGo platform from Nokia's side. As well as the reference platform of N900.

As I've said.. my points have all been related to Nokia's view of the N900 and so far everything we've seen/been told is that the N900 has no future in nokia. So why should I feel all warm and fuzzy that the only way I can build a workable image is from nokia.com?
Technically it's on repository.maemo.org the files, but (We are working so things are published from repo.meego.com instead. Things take time when there's legal aspects involved)

repeated links to the MeeGo N900/ARM page that proves nothing at this stage of the game regarding how long Nokia is going to continue to care to distribute images for the N900 when all it is to Nokia is a money-hole since they won't be officially selling or distributed updates for existing and new users to the N900 when MeeGo is officially released.
It doesn't, hence my first sentence about asking what kind of commitment actually exists. I'm just showing what is actually going on instead and what resources are being spent on N900 and how things will look like now, at 1.1, after 1.1, etc.

I'd be a lot happier man if we didn't have the blobs at all. My point was that they require little maintenance. And that the 'cost' of maintenance is less if there's also community people capable of lifting burdens together with us.

My main gripe is that people here complain more than contribute (and this obviously doesn't apply to Fatalsaint, who is contributing in many different ways). More work, less talk.
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Last edited by Stskeeps; 2010-08-06 at 17:46.
 

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