I don't disagree.. but my understanding is most of peoples complaints are revolved around closed source components. Both within Maemo itself and also apps they see from android/iphone that we can't access.

From what I've seen the community around here has been pretty good at building feasible apps that people request. Someone wanted a call blocker.. someone else wrote a script for it.. someone else either showed the writer.. or took the script and made a deb for it IIRC.

We got told we couldnt have flash 10.. so several people found out how to trick flash into thinking it was 10..then someone else made an easy package for it. Is this the perfect solution? No.. but it's the best we can do as outsiders to both Nokia and Apple.. at least until someone figures out how to use the Android binary.. and then it may not be legal.

Then there is qwerty12.. he was very good at taking the closed components and managing to reverse engineer them and make them do what we wanted.. such as the volume keys to skip in his exit, or the fmtx thing he worked on.. or the pulseaudio hacks to get apps to register themselves properly.

etc.

So as a community.. I think we're doing ok.. that is: if you can find the decent threads amongst all the noise like this one. And yes, Ill say it, even the dev thank you thread in response to this one.

Now the ATMOSPHERE is different... that sucks here. The thing is.. we are responsible for our own attitudes.. we can't blame Nokia for our inability to not piss on our own floor. Can we get mad at Nokia? of course.. can we get angry with their policies? yes.. But screaming about it fixes nothing. We should instead be asking ourselves if WE can fix this problem ourselves. Sometimes yes, Sometimes no.. and in that case we go "that sucks" and move on.