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Originally Posted by silvermountain View Post
I had always thought that one (the only?) point in having a 'Council' w/in a community that is so tied to a commercial entity is to have that Council be the liaison between the community and the corporation.

Reading here http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council it does state that "The Council's mission is to "represent the Maemo community's best interests to Nokia".

So when you, as you have repeatedly done in this thread, *** what WE have done to 'fix things' I'd like to think that one answer is that 'we' bring up issues w/in the community forum and, hopefully, the 'Council' then realize these issues and brings them to Nokia's attention.

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I have however said in the past that I find the Council to be powerless, unstructured, incompetent and ineffective - and now, months later that SUBJECTIVE sentiment still stands.

I don't recall ever seeing a project plan with actual dates for anything the Council 'resides' over - or have listed as 'Hot Topics'. Nothing seems to get resolved and issues are either completely ignored or just sits in limbo for a year until it fades.

If anything I would vote for the 'Council' to be abolished next term as I bet no one would be able to tell the difference a year later.

It would however, I'm sure, be traumatic for some people to not have that dinky-toy title associated with them so there would be some resistance.
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So easy to armchair quarterback. To call names. To lay blame. To ignore effort and accomplishment.

So much more difficult to work one's *** off in such an apparently thankless position.

You think you're disappointed when council efforts come to nothing, silvermountain? Try putting in the hours I have. Try putting together a community outreach program and, just as you gain momentum after hours and hours and hours of design, review and discussion, the very reason for it disappears. Try writing and maintaining a blog partially dedicated to the community and having to stay on top of it to delete the juvenile nastygrams left by anonymous cowards. Try countless emails about community issues to various executives with no replies.

Try bending over backwards for myriad members of a community, some of whom leave petty, churlish posts like yours here as a "reward" for the effort.

As a community leader, council member or otherwise, I have gone to bat for this place and its people-- including you in all your nasty ingratitude. I was the one staying after work to dig through spare N800 parts, slicing my fingers on faceplates in the process, and mailing them out free to anyone who asked. I was the one who put my job at risk, angering people like Quim by challenging the tablet program to do better by the community. I'm the one enduring all the grief that malcontents like you dish out at a distance, in such cowardly fashion, because I'm stupid enough to care about people I'll never meet.

And that goes for every council member who's ever served.

Unstructured? Maybe to the anal retentive. Incompetent? An ironic assessment. Powerless and ineffective? Sure, at times. But only a complete idiot would confuse Nokia's monolithic resistance to change with the fault of five community people who care enough to devote their free time to that "futility".

What have YOU done?

Unbelieveable.
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Last edited by Texrat; 2010-08-11 at 02:32.