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Posts: 108 | Thanked: 120 times | Joined on Dec 2009
#158
Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
So easy to armchair quarterback. To call names. To lay blame. To ignore effort and accomplishment.

So much more difficult to work one's *** off in such an apparently thankless position.

You think you're disappointed when councl efforts come to nothing, silvermountain? Try putting in the hours I have. Try putting together a community outreach program and, just as you gain momentum after hours and hours and hours of design, review and discussion, the very reason for it disappears. Try writing and maintaining a blog partially dedicated to the community and having to stay on top of it to delete the juvenile nastygrams left by anonymous cowards. Try countless emails about community issues to various executives with no replies.

Try bending over backwards for myriad members of a community, some of whom leave petty, churlish posts like yours here as a "reward" for the effort.

As a community leader, council member or otherwise, I have gone to bat for this place and its people-- including you in all your nasty ingratitude. I was the one staying after work to dig through spare N800 parts, slicing my fingers on faceplates in the process, and mailing them out free to anyone who asked. I was the one who put my job at risk, angering people like Quim by challenging the tablet program to do better by the community. I'm the one enduring all the grief that malcontents like you dish out at a distance, in such cowardly fashion, because I'm stupid enough to care about people I'll never meet.

And that goes for every council member who's ever served.

Unstructured? Maybe to the anal retentive. Incompetent? An ironic assessment. Powerless and ineffective? Sure, at times. But only a complete idiot would confuse Nokia's monolithic resistance to change with the fault of five community people who care enough to devote their free time to that "futility".

What have YOU done?

Unbelieveable.
Dude I'm sure people appreciate the work, but come on at the feet of Maemo obsolescence can the Maemo council sit and not say what community members are feeling. The N900 non-support was a raw deal, the flash issue not coming to light is becoming bothersome, Nokia hardware repair being anal for some issues, the WONTFIX bugs beginning to creep up, lack of Ovi Maps navigation ... and so on and so forth.

I think you guys fight on these behalfs, but behind closed doors which is not good enough to expedite Nokia to do anything. I fully understand what the 'qwerty12' dude was going on about ... the council is the last people steering this pile of **** and you guys are currently under the thumb of Nokia not the community. The community is asking you to tell Nokia a big F-you even though the effectiveness is not known. We should be boycotting the future phones until they change plans on the N900 obsolescence, create a Facebook group saying Nokia sucks, espouse social activism to get what this community needs ... working with them will only get you as far as the next news cycle, once the next phone is announced it will be Maemo who? This community is at the best place right now to hold Nokia accountable, a small window if it passes then they will repeat this culture of poor support year after year ... they won't learn so long as the entire community can unilaterally say no more of these lackluster efforts. Also who cares if they recoil back to a closed source mentality, in my opinion things can only get better once we vent what the community is feeling. I like the blogs on Tabula Crypticum and so your work is valued ... but this is a publicity war and how does one cooperate with Nokia when as qwerty12 would say we are at the *** end of the deal.

Yes what I, qwerty12 and others are saying seems unthinkable and not thought out. But I ask what of this community remains once Meego comes out? Even the council became obsolete the day Meego was announced, people are leaving, some are so disenfranchised they make posts which are sane to read but irrational to post as it just lists reasons for leaving. What can you guys do, firstly stop bothering with Meego issues ... you are Maemo council not Meego council. Put out a public memo airing the disillusionment for N900 not being supported any further beyond Maemo 5. List the issues that need to be resolved by Nokia to earn the communities recommendation for future Nokia devices, organize Nokia boycott campaigns (in my opinion a better use of your free time when dealing with council duties) ... so again you can help the community by telling Nokia what we truly think ... stick it where the sun don't shine if you do not address our concerns.

I know why some can be a bit hesitant, tarnishing the rep of a good phone company. You know what I don't work their and so don't others, and Nokia hasn't impressed for a while now. As a consumer I think that they did everything wrong to date, and as to the future positioning they have made I think it is pointless now as they have pissed any goodwill that existed. Air the concerns, and stop trying to keep the piece ... the community is dieing might as well supernova and explode on Nokia's face as they have created the conditions for this.