Thank you debernadis... after the prior comments, this is something that needs to be commented upon.

The council needs to be defined in a way that clarifies what it does/doesn't do. To me, and until this thread, I thought the council had the ear of Nokia in a way that we could say to them "Why don't we have Flash?" or "Why doesn't Maemo 5 support all iterations of Python and not just PyQt or PyGTK (or something else) ?"

Customer grievances don't seem welcome here. Well, not in a way that will result in things getting resolutions. But stuff that supports the developers on the device... that's what the council does do, right?

I'm still trying to get all what the council does and doesn't do and have it in layman terms. Because as it stands, I'm looking at being very wrong in what I originally thought what the council can, cannot do and get done.

I think that's where (at least myself) has been misunderstanding things for quite a while.