Are you being sarcastic? There was not a single closed source blob in Mer - where on -earth- did you get from that we were having lack of openness? What? WHAT? Now I'm just offended. Matan's point that a image with limited functionality without a blob doesn't spark much interest (due to much of the hardware adaptation needing this), does apply to Mer. Which is ironic cos it's the same people who don't understand that the real world sometimes gives us lemons (blobs) and there's not a damn thing that can be done about it. And I'll reiterate daperl again (not exact words): Isn't the lesson from X86 distributions clear? You're only as good as your drivers, proprietary or otherwise. But lack of openness??. WTF. We had all work happening in the open, mer-chatter for workstreaming, gitorious, OBS projects where everybody could submit to, IRC channel where people -still- hang out. We might have had functionality issues, but don't you dare to claim we did not have openness. I'm really considering adding '127.0.0.1 talk.maemo.org' to my /etc/hosts tonight so I can actually do what I'm supposed to instead of wasting my time arguing with people with too much of entitlement disorder. Talk is cheap, go contribute instead. I've had enough of people who talk, talk, talk and talk and do nothing.