Yes, that is exactly what he said, you keep telling us to read your posts but you're obviously ignoring everyone elses, this council debate is just another band wagon you can jump on. Seriously, calm down. The cards have already been laid out on the table. Nokia have not mentioned anything past PR1.3 which should include Qt 4.7 and Qt Mobility. (This is what I'm waiting for). Meanwhile a lot of the community are interested in getting Meego running on their devices to see how that project is going along. And in parallel to all this, there is you, constantly ranting and jumping on any member of this community you feel like. Saying we're not doing enough to get Nokia to put MeeGo on our devices, or Maemo isn't finished, or we're all "fanboys", yes, I'm a fan, I like my N900, I'd be happier if all the whiners just somehow disappeared, so this community could go back to what we actually want to do, develop, mod and discuss our gadgets. Unfortunately, that time appears to have passed, because you are here ...