Yeah that's what I said to him, and then he said oh is that meant you surrendered and admit that you're phone is gay? I said "each individual buy a device that will meet their need of usage and expectation. If your device is the best then it may be not to me. To me I like an open device and freedom" He said "Open but no applications, all your applications are ****." He also said "Why would you need dual LED for camera? One LED is enough and even better than two for taking picture and video".