i reckon my issue was mohammedAG pulseaudio files , i removed them by unpinning and upgrading back to the original files . now i cant reproduce the error... hopefully i found the issue so must ask if your using the new pulseaudio leetut ?
would be a shame if its a pulseaudio issue as using hildon desktop fix/kinetic scroll fix with no issues and appreciate the fixes from mohammedAG . shall test next day or so to prove/disprove my fix for this error...