Yeah I figured out the sizes in Gimp. I'm actually not totally useless with graphics I am just useless with design. Once I get a design I can manipulate it as I need.

I will mess a little tomorrow scaling the buttons up a little. Im gonna ponder the position of the time in yours. It makes use of empty space, which is good, but doesn't seem very natural being so far away from where the song information is located.

What I'll probably do is mess with a few designs in putting the song title and artist where you have the time, and the time and album down on the bottom left... or the song title and the time on the upper right with the artist and album on bottom left (this one sounds the most fluid on paper.. will see how it looks in practice.)

Thanks for your help.. you're feeding some good ideas here and I've wanted to give pyRadio a facelift for a bit now but completely incapable of doing so myself.

As for the pyRadio graphic.. yes, it looks very familiar - I just can't seem to place from where.. its a logo of something. I dunno how graphics/copyright works on those things to tell whether its far enough from the original to be an issue or not.