If you have to resort to insults and obscene similes (and yes, that was spelt correctly - NOT smilies) you have already lost the argument because you cannot maintain self-control, no matter how much technical knowledge you may have. Some of you people have so much technical ability and knowledge here that frankly you make me feel inadequate... If you could just get your s**t together (and yes, I spelt that on purpose to show that anyone can resort to the vernacular) and WORK together instead of using this forum as somewhere to work out your own personal neurosis and inner fears about penis size just imagine how much more could be done. As it is, this thread has lost it's way like so many others before it...