I have been fiddling with it on the colmmand line. It appears the arm porters did a not great work on fedora 12. for instance I have tried installing both some individual apps (err packages) and groups as well using yum groupinstall. I have encountered "dependancy hell" (wasn't yum setup to alleviate that?) in both instances. too bad why would people half port something? perhaps there will be a better fedora 13 arm port in the future. I'd be suprised if there were any graphical things that wouldn't be better in quoles masterful easy debian at this point.