Well yes. The 5800 is two years old, and still receives updates. Now it has full kinetic scrolling and talk navigation amongst other things. It is also the touch screen phone that is sold in most units, more than 50 millions, and is still selling. Show me an Android phone (HTC, Samsung, whatever) that comes close to this, there are none.

With all the negativism here, it is strange than Nokia doesn't close down the site, pull the plug on the funding.

The N8 will be a massive hit, but I guess the C6-01 will sell more due to the price, and maybe also the C7. So what will it be; N8, C6, C7, E7? or wait for the N9? hmmmm.