Thread: Is there any real alternative?
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gerbick
2010-09-22 , 04:14
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
Well hold on there. Ubuntu doesn't actually do any support for "hardware" at all. If you have an Nvidia or ATI video card you get extremely shatty 3D unless you get their respective closed source drivers.
It does support AMD or Intel out of the box. The other drivers, like wi-fi et al are also supported out of the box (usually). So yeah... Ubuntu does have generic drivers on top of vendor specific and supplied drivers.

That is no different at all between MeeGo on the N900 requiring certain closed source drivers for the components.
Only difference... Nokia has never released their closed source drivers. If they had, my faith would be a bit different on how this will all play out.

Granted, this hasn't happened yet and is wishful thinking at current time, but it's at least at the same playing field as ATI contributing code to the the open source drivers while still maintaining their closed source counterpart.
It happens. Now, let's see Nokia do that with the BME.

Also, I was running pieces of 2.0 on my G1 long before the first 2.0 device hit market.. You don't need to wait for anybody..
Yeah, I could run Froyo via XDA right now; but to be honest, I've already hacked, probed and played around enough already. Voodoo lagfix, GPS fix, Media Hub from the Epic 4G, Google Voice version that came from the Nexus One, Market Access, et al... but you know, I know that Froyo is coming via Samsung and I'm going to be patient (or patient enough until there's a Froyo + lagfix + GPS fix + FULL market availability) ROM out there.

I cannot say the same for Maemo. If I want to make phone calls, use the web, use the terminal, continue with the experience that I expect from my N900 (that just sounds weird), then PR1.2 is it. There's no custom ROM's, nothing really outside of the excellent Nitdroid or a few other Debian hacks here and there. But those turn it into a tablet; which isn't bad. But I bought a phone (too).

Ubuntu has had multiple releases, MeeGo not yet one.
You're 100% right. And I'm jumping the gun. I'll lay off and watch what happens. Hell... in this case, I absolutely want to be proven wrong.

That entirely depends on your definition of "one-for-one". Remember, most things on the N900 are third party. As long as MeeGo provides us a working, functioning, user interface with some basic utilities such as a launcher and a way to add applications via a manager - everything else comes in the form of a third-party software release.
Like when I was talking to STSKeeps... I want to be able to replace the OS, make the phone calls, et al without losing any functionality. Flash Player inclusive - I know, I know... Flash is Adobe, not Nokia. But I don't want to lose that unless I choose to do so.

But again.. Ubuntu itself I don't believe really supports people (is there an "Ubuntu" phone number where you get 24 hour support for whatever system you're running?
Not what I meant. I only call support due to a client's request - and it's usually to Microsoft. I don't call support for personal support, ever. I'm talking about official support of an upgrade from the vendor that fully supports the device as only the originator of the device can.

Piecing together a Laptop is not easy.
It does exist.

Just because my computer doesn't support the newest printer that just got released, or the latest hardware from a vendor because they don't yet have a Linux driver - doesn't make my computer any less of a computer either.
But the possibility of it being supported in the future if it is indeed a desktop/laptop/netbook is much higher than a phone. A computer usually gets support. A phone, not so much.

I, for one, think Moobs are awesome!!! (wait.. did I just put that in public? ****..)
Wow.
Last edited by gerbick; 2010-09-22 at 04:17.
 

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