I hate Apple more than anyone out there but think it is a bit silly the way the fanboys on this site say things lik iphone is crap and all that. If it is doing so well it is because it actually offers something people want. We may have no interest on it but I don't think we can honestly say to ourselves that tens of millions are buying crap and at so much cost. If we were honest with ourselves we would say it is a good device which has things the mass market is interested in (ease of use, tons of apps, works well). However, we are not interested in it because we don't want to be told what we can do with our device, we want to modify the device, we don't want to pay for ringtones when we already have the mp3, we want a keyboard, etc. When we say iphone is crap all we are doing is: 1. Lying to ourselves; or 2. Showing that we are real fan boys who lack the ability to be objective