I did chmod, but I had to cd because gainroot didnt stick me in the DIR. I'm only doing it from command for testing purposes because running it from the icons didnt work for me. I've just tested again and nothing happens when I click the icons either. Terminal pops up, stays, then goes. Modules loaded are the same. Really upset, I'm just one step away - every thing else, grimwepa etc. is working perfectly! Hope you can help me solve this, you've done a brill job thus far! K