So do the same thing again and hope that the results will be different this time? No, I don't think so. Sometimes you have to learn and move on. I don't have an obligation to give Nokia repeated chances or to repeatedly bang my head against a wall.

To put this in context, I have a hard time asking community members to work towards Diablo SSU^2 because my gut and my brain is telling me that we can't rely on Nokia opening things up. As a member of this community, my obligation is to the community. And I can't, in good conscience, try to convince fellow community members that they should expect good results. I said awhile ago that we would be better off if we proceeded on the assumption that nothing would be opened up and be pleasantly surprised and grateful if they do.