6:54 pm: Kara: Do you consider yourself the Microsoft of phones in that regard? Rubin: No. We’re probably more like the Linux of phones, and that’s a true statement. Walt: You mean hard to get drivers for, only for geeks, no real consumer would buy it? Rubin: No, I think we’ve already proven that wrong. Bad analogy.
Kara: Have you gone to Finland to woo Nokia? Rubin: I haven’t been to Finland. Walt: Forget Finland, have you tried to convince Nokia? Rubin just laughs (a-ha). 7:12 pm: Kara: The discussions with Nokia–talk about them in detail. Rubin: The company has new leadership [referring to CEO Stephen Elop]. They are evaluating lots of alternatives. I’m open-minded and a big proponent of Android. Rubin again declines to talk about any meetings he may have had.