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Originally Posted by devu View Post
Here is another one point that nobody seems to be cover yet/
You all trying to simplify this to some point, so here is another one but very important.

It is perfect for youtube (except flash 10.1)

Somebody didn't realize that giving access to the Flash Dev community to play around is a smart business decision. Over 3 millions active community keep spreading the news about new area they can possibly enter. And here we go! Air apps, Flash 10.1 stuff, small steps but helping many people to make decision witch device I would like to buy and platform to support as Flash Dev. We are not talking about average Joe but geeks that playing with technology and n900 + Maemo + flash 10.1 would be perfect combination.

Base on this experience somebody realized the potential finally. New player with custom and fresh system on the market. Guess what they did. Prepared VM simulator of their OS and released it to Flash devs before its available on the market!

Yep..., http://us.blackberry.com/playbook-tablet/ They were trying to attract Flash guys and I have to say, they succeed already at some point.

Whatever you might thing about flash itself it's a huge factor in this game. Especially when comes to comparison iOS vs Android, don't overlooked that. It was the main reason for many people... ok IShine is cool because its shiny but flash.. hmm. I can show off that I have true and full web experience. Was it the one of the advert key point for Maemo and N900? Full experience? Really?

And here we go, so flash dev end up here, by mistake and trust that this OS will be future prove. I'm wondering how many more were so naive like me. Fact is, it's a shame since now I know how truly Maemo 5 unique is
and robust could be...

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I can also add something in terms of OS classification these days.

Android, iOS - at some point i agree Android is a copy of iOS in terms of functionality and user experience. Mainly relaying on apps. Giving you wild race for get app for every single task you would like to make. Atomizing it to the level of uselessness.
Why I need so many apps to duplicate mainly web based stuff?

Chrome OS - as opposite to above, relaying on web based stuff only. Trying to convince you everybody is using one Application called web browser.

From one extremeness to another. Maybe there is even millions of customers that could find one of the ways useful but there is still huge amount of people that would like to have both. Even if the statement of Google is correct, we still need proper, local OS under our control. We don't need 2k apps if we have robust web experience, I agree. Maemo could perfectly fill the gap. But end up in nowhere in this case. No apps no Full web experience.
For a fellow living in London, your English is somewhat hard to parse. If I understand you correctly, though, I would believe that you're arguing that Flash is what made Maemo. I disagree. I would like to point out to you that Maemo existed for many revisions and a few years before Flash had been available. I would further argue the point that iOS phones were popular despite the lack of Flash, and that Android was catching up quickly to iOS despite lacking Flash long before Flash was even announced coming to the platform. Most importantly, Maemo was never more popular than either of them at any point during their commercial availability to customers, even when Maemo was the only one of the three that DID have Flash for a time.

May I also add that I don't use Flash on my Android devices and yet they are able to browse and operate excellently on every website I've browsed with Dolphin or Firefox (I'm not a fan of the built-in Android browser, but then the argument here is about Flash making or breaking a platform). I sincerely doubt that Maemo succeeded as a fantastic platform because it had Flash to "help" show you a bunch of web ads.

As for Youtube, I sincerely prefer it without Flash. The YouTube app works GREAT on Android and I'm never left wanting a Flash based player. Not at all.

In my opinion, you give far too much credit and credence to Flash as if it would make or break an operating system. In my view, it's the annoying RealPlayer plugin-in of the 2000's: a plug-in that web site operators keep hinging on so much that they effectively make it feel like a plugin-in is a web standard requirement. Silly--especially in an operating system argument.
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