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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
Um, no. You can use a web browser to get RealPlayer video and to get a page full of nothing but plugins running--that doesn't make the plugin content web pages. The plugin content is sitting ON a web page, but the plugin media aren't the web page. Flash content isn't a web site and it's only as portable as Flash is. Considering how utterly abandoned the Maemo platform has been, you're increasingly unlikely to see web pages that host Flash content with the exception of your aforementioned (and utterly unwelcomed, in most cases--completely unnecessary, in all cases) Flash based advertisements.
You actually pulled out RealPlayer? Props for the nerve to do that.

But both RealPlayer (is that still around!? I've not installed it since G2 way back in my early, pre-SP1 Win2k days) and Flash are web based technologies (initially) and since I can setValue() via SWFAddress, I can alter the browser's URL as well - but I cannot do that unless I am embedded in a HTML/PHP page.

Thus, the Flash content, a web browser plugin based content is a web page. Your argument, while incredibly valid... you'd be saying that YouTube isn't a webpage either because it has embedded media that's normally played only via a browser plugin.

Flash is more than just ads. Video, navigation, pulling out data into datagrids via queries directly to the database (Flex), Adobe AIR (integrated runtime), Flash is more than just web too.

And once Adobe integrates Flash to HTML5... then Flash will output web pages too.

And be careful. By your description of "sitting on" the webpage, the pages are indeed the buckets that we fill with our content. Some require plugins, some require special DOM interpreters (javascript for instance) and then are those considered on the page or in? That's a very slippery slope.

I just go with the whole "Can I get to it via http://somedamnaddress.com?" and if it's yes, then the content is all the web page to me.

Overly simplistic? Hell yeah. But it keeps me from overthinking things.