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Originally Posted by porselinaheart View Post
erm, what do u mean there wasn't an 'upper market segment' before the iphone came along??? i beg to differ. phones like the n95, n82 were clearly upmarket when they came out and even further back models like the 8850, 8810, etc were definitely considered to be higher end. These phones garnered a sizeable market share back in their day as well, mate. Of course this was back when the US was still using flip phones with external antennae, monocolour displays, etc.
What I mean is that both the N95 and N82 were contemporary with the first iPhone. Lots of people still use the N95 and N82 because there is no newer/better devices of that form factor. It stopped there, that particular market segment disappeared. The iPhone market segment emerged. The N95 and N82 market segment was miniscule compared with the iPhone segment today, even though it was much larger than the communicator segment. Trust me on this, dividing the market in "upper", "mid" and "lower" in terms of analyzing the mobile industry will get you nowhere because it does not work like that. It is constantly changing, new segments emerge, older disappear. What we (well, not me) refer to as "upper" is in fact the new segment created by Apple, and the iPhone is all alone in there, the same way Nokia was all alone in the "N95-N82" segment. In Fact creating new market segments is what the mobile industry is all about, and it is more evident now than ever. Android created a huge one. We got expensive phones and cheaper phones in there, but it is still one single Android segment.

@vkv.raju I never said that Nokia + WM would be the best possible solution. What I said was that Nokia + WM may very well be the only solution that will bring both Nokia and MS into the future without neither of them braking the back in the process. But let's face it, Nokia with WM/Symbian and seamless integration of MS and OVI services would be a gamechanger that the whole world would love (some would of course love to hate it ) Devices in all categories would penetrate the market, from the cheapest no nonsense phones (but Nokia build quality) to business phones, to gamer phones, to camera monsters, to 4.5" internet browsers, everything neatly integrated with OVI/MS servises. This is where Nokia wants to be, and this is where MS wants to be; they want to get devices out there to get those services up and running.

Then ask yourselves, how will MeeGo help Nokia doing this? How will MeeGo help Nokia getting those needed tightly integrated MS services? Right now OVI is an app store and a music store, it works well enough on Symbian, but it needs more. It needs mail services, it needs IM (a real one), it needs back end office services, it needs everything that MS already has. The plans for Meego are good, but how is Nokia going to execute those plans when they can't even get one single MeeGo device out there, and they have to enlarge OVI two or threefold in terms of different services. I have no idea how Nokia is going to pull this off alone. I think the MeeGo plans are from a time when Nokia still thought SF would catch on, and with it, all the services needed would pop up. Services that could easily be used for MeeGo as well. SF is gone, 1800 software developers sacked, OVI is still only app and music. Time to execute some real leadership within Nokia.