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gerbick	2010-12-27 , 18:41
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Originally Posted by vkv.raju

I accept that. Nokia has delayed its product for sometime now. But the fact that they are still committed to open-source (with MeeGo & Qt) is worth-the-wait alone.

I don't share the same faith; however I do understand. Maemo 5 eclipsed Maemo 4.1 in all ways (almost). So hopefully the progression continues.

Look at it this way: Maemo (on a phone) is already in the market since late 2009. In these 1.5 years (by the time meego appears), they could have really polished maemo itself and released maemo6 with their next device. But they didn't do that. A strong reason should have been there. And that reason as we all know is Qt. MeeGo from the ground-up is based on Qt and which is a good decision.

I see what you're saying... but I can't agree. Maemo has been around on tablets since 2005. The addition of the telephony bits should have been handled better since... well, it's Nokia.

I understand that Nokia is taking too much time for MeeGo to come out but this is all part-and-parcel of the game with any big company out there. Also remember, HPalm OS is yet to make its mark. So, the game is really not that over yet.

To be honest - and mind you, I'm honestly enjoying discussing things with you, as always - I think that MeeGo is progressing nicely... but it's the avenues to get information that bother me. I would love to hear information from Nokia directly. Not by people with periphery connections to Nokia/MeeGo. Seeing demos are great; hearing from Nokia that they've kept a platform moving forward and how it will be deployed would be great.

That's no disservice to the Quim's, Texrat's et al... but the communication about MeeGo is too scattered. News about HP's take on WebOS comes from HP directly. Blackberry and their QNX derived Playbook comes directly from Blackberry.

MeeGo's communication? Random folks, random countries, random events that I hear about usually a few days before they start or after they've ended. Won't lie... perhaps I'm just looking in the wrong place(s). I don't mind shouldering that blame.

The mobile industry is here to stay. When you are preparing for a long-term war, it's always better to plan your moves ahead. May it take some extra time in the beginning, it all pays well in the end. This is where I think the other companies are some what missing on their long-term strategies.

100% agree. Quoted for emphasis.

MeeGo though is not officially available on any device yet, people (including me) were able to successfully load it on their N900 and try it out.

I can't consider that a full-blown implementation yet though. It's getting there, but as far as it stands, it's unfinished. I fear that if I were to review an unfinished product, I'll end up in the same boat as Eldar - much maligned and complaining about things that are "yet to come".

One beauty of open source is that, people need not wait for the actual device to know what they would be getting.

I love open source. Champion it daily in my work - all but Adobe Flash/Flex that is. But at the same time, the whole "design by committee" approach can yield bad results in some open source projects. All I can do is just hope that MeeGo is as embraced as I think it should be. But to assume too much right now, when all it takes is to educate folks better straight from the sources mouth (read: Nokia) then the assumptions get lesser, the anticipation gets even higher and we're more in the loop for being a community that's behind their products.

Something is amiss. It's communication. It's not anticipation.

So, basically what I am trying to say here is, it doesn't matter, who starts first. It's all about who survives till the last...

Again, 100% agree.

...and this is at this point, I am willing to bet on the Nokia+MeeGo+Qt+Symbian horse.

I don't agree here. They're a viable player, but not one I'd say will dominate. Not yet.

The fact of the matter is we haven't seen anything yet in the mobile space. Amazing things are awaiting us in the near future and I am excited.

And here, my friend... we agree. Thanks for discussing and clarifying your earlier statements. It is much appreciated.

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