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Originally Posted by gazza_d View Post
more garbage and guff spouting from american commentators who cannot comprehend a successful company and products from outside of the USA.
And that's the kind of Euro-centric rhetoric I was regarding to in my earlier post in regards to an American based blog talking about any opinion piece about any European company. Simply put, they don't want Americans in their business, and quite honestly, I don't want them in my business in North America.

Nokia will continue to flail about as if they have a clue on what they're doing, it all looks good, they'll continue to make money up until a point. Realizing that your business shouldn't be built around building a timed obsolescence into either the hardware and/or OS and stop selling hardware like the razor blade/razor mentality is what needs to happen.

The Nokia products are successful in other regions. Awesome. Let them stay there then.

There... I said it.

I can be just as ignorant as you lot regarding Nokia in the North American and Japanese markets. Just will have to learn without any presence in those areas, I will speak from my own experience and/or exposure and your ranting, raving, cursing and attempts to convert or educate me will fall upon deaf ears (or eyes really) because I'll not have the same experience and exposure as you blokes in Eurotopia.

Simply put... the problem is with Nokia. Marketing isn't so out of the ****ing question when you have something you want to sell. Last I checked, that's a good thing.

So the solution is either expand the marketing or expand the training/knowledge of your products. That happens via clear communication, products that don't adhere to the "It's brand new, it's great, it's awesome, you want it..." and then in 6 months drop the support for it while announcing the new OS iteration and/or hardware and how you will have to pay another 550 Euros (or whatever Eurocentric currency that fits your egocentric nature) to stay current and get the next dot revision of an OS that's ultimately a work in progress or a dot revision of the next version of Flash or Skype.

Americans didn't create that problem. They're only reacting to their experience and exposure to those aforementioned products.

Your anger is wholly misguided. I'd suggest that you step out your "American blogs suck arse" mentality for a moment and think about what it really could be if things were done differently starting with Nokia.

NOTE: And by "you" in all of my sentences, I don't mean just gazza_d. And if you're an American, reverse the structuring of my sentences to point that we need to stop thinking that our American blogs are the best damn resources on the planet for all things gadget based. We don't have enough exposure to some aspects of the successful sides of their businesses and only are getting the short end of the stick on a few products - want unbiased exposure and information, look at the countries of origin for those gadgets. You might be surprised.
 

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