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2011-01-28 , 22:43
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
Oh no, not this stuff about Android devframework on top of meego again... What app from Android is SOOO important and cant be done using QT?
The Nokia chairman seems to be saying he's prepared to do deals to join a competitive eco-system.

So what would you prefer, Android on Nokia (and most likely wiping out any OS Nokia currently produces, or plans to produce, ie. MeeGo, like a cuckoo) or a bait & switch solution that would be an Android compatibility layer - it appeases the punters and analysts without going full throttle on Android and selling your soul to the devil.

It's not about ME wanting Android, I'm simply addressing the comments made by Elop who clearly wants or is prepared to to do deals to get a viable eco-system in North America, and if it's not Android it's probably WP7 (which personally I don't see as a threat to MeeGo, but then nor do I see it as having a competitive eco-system so an unlikely choice).

Originally Posted by vvaz View Post
Comparisons involving Nokia and popular Android providers usually misses one point: *real* hardware producers.
Nokia doesn't produce crucial elements of its phones: semiconductors, screens, camera units. It buys them from its direct competitors in mobile markets like Samsung, LG, etc.
And the "real" hardware producers are all paying Nokia licence fees to use their fundamental patents (all except Apple, of course...) It's a financial merry-go-round.

Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
Far Better solution for Nokia would be to port QtQuick to Android (and webOS)
How, when Google won't support it. And even if they were to change their policy, who will develop for it, and why when it's non-native and therefore not on every device? People aren't developing for Qt due to any lack of numbers - it's available for millions of Symbian phones. Getting Qt on to even more phones isn't going to change anything - the problems are elsewhere.

Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
more than negotiations probably, given that they killed both the X7 and the nuron 2 so close before scheduled release.
really seems like symbian's gonna be the victim.
Releasing the Nuron 2 in the US would have been a mistake anyway - the Nuron 2 is a Symbian^1 phone... someone must have been taking the mickey at T-Mobile, yanking Nokia's chain, or someone was asleep at the wheel in Espoo. Symbian^3 is going to struggle in the US, what hope is there for a Symbian^1 device?

As for the X7... very odd.

Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
Android blablabla

OviStore apps increase alot and if Nokia get the damn updates out for QT4.7/Quick on N8/C7 there will be alot more.

So in the case of Symbian based apps in low/midend segment, I see no problems for Nokia.

Problem is highend atleast if Theyr are stupid and in panic kills Meego.
There is very little Ovi Store increase in North America because nobody is buying Nokia in North America. Are you paying attention to the conversation here? That's where Nokia are struggling, that's where they want a quick win by (potentially) joining an existing and competitive eco-system.

Ovi is NOT a competitive eco-system in North America, high, mid or low end. Period.

How Nokia resolve this issue is what we are debating, and the decision they make will have major implications for their existing operating systems one way or the other.