yeh your all right , i think it escaped me that if i was to update my initial thread it would appear at the top of the forum 'applications'....i should have considered that.
by update im presuming i can edit it and it will appear top of the thread board,,,but up to now,,,,,,annoyingly so i update my unreplied threads by creating another one,,,,or,,,,,,hmmm,,,,,,annoying 20-30 geeks in a one man protest.

sorry to be pragmatic but,,,its how i roll