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Originally Posted by Frappacino View Post
This place is full of posts saying how this or that perfect for "ME" and because _I_ like it, Nokia must be doing very well and will continue as it currently is.
You're still not getting it. It's not because "I like it, Nokia must be doing very well and will continue as it currently is". It's because I like, I want to have it. I don't really give a damn about how well Nokia is doing or what market share they have.

To put it in other words: If I have a clear vision of want I want, why on earth should I, in a forum like this, not clearly say so? Would you expect a vegetarian to encourage and support his favourite vegetarian restaurant when it announces it'll become a steak house? No more dishes without meat?

Originally Posted by Frappacino View Post
Then when Nokia reveals that it is NOT doing well (this is NOT Elop, the BOARD put him in charge) and changes tack, the posters here shriek surprise and betrayal and there are even calls for persecution (WTF its a corporate decision !), charges of treason (double WTF) and even calls for violence on Elop's person.
We've seen other companies doing much worse. Nokia isn't doing all so bad. Worse than they should, yes, but far from bad.

Now one important point that you seem to miss completely is that Nokia's problem isn't Symbian or Qt or MeeGo. It's (funny: Flop said that, didn't he?) execution in general. It's the inability to bring anything to the market in time. Nokia' tagline is no longer "connecting people", it's "delaying products". And I'm not talking about the obvious delays, like the N8 being half a year late or MeeGo not meeting the 2010-deadline. I'm talking about the whole idea of refreshing and constantly developing the Symbian UI being 5 years late. I'm talking about really coding the "next thing after Symbian" being 5 years late, too... Including the coherent developer story that needs to come with it.

Another thing Nokia failed to do is to build confidence among developers and partners. Symbian+Avkon, Maemo+GTK, Maemo+Qt, Symbian+Qt, MeeGo instead of Maemo, the web runtime, HTML5, ... oh, yes, Ovi services, Ovi APIs, then letting services die (share, files) - looking back, it's like somebody was drunk and drove serpentines through your garden, destroying everything you had planted.

What Nokia did well is creating and maintaining good (smart)phone operating systems. As i said, many or most decisions were made too late and it took much too long to deliver, but even in spite of that, S40, Symbian and Maemo/MeeGo still shine compared to the competition. Now imagine what these platforms could become with a little more effort from now on.

So after we have identified strengths and weaknesses, what does Flop do?

Kill the strengths (the existing platforms), add to the weakness of always being to late by changing to a new platform (how long will this take?) and further alienating the developers (or elitists with tech snobbisness, as you prefer to call them) by telling them that "sorry, all the effort you put into our 2010-strategy with Qt etc. was in vain, we've changed our plans - again".

People here shake their heads because they instinctively understand that Flop jumped into the cold Atlantic when he had an effective fire extinguisher in his hands. - Maybe he (or even Nokia) will survive. But the platform, worth billions, is destroyed for good when it could have been saved. And it's this platform people are interested in. Not Nokia or Mr. Flop from North America.
 

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