Thanks for the pointer! its working a charm. I've made a new set of PNGs for the flipclock based off brushed aluminium set to make them fit in one flip to save space. Add a couple of live qbws for data and IP to fill in the background and its starting to look somewhat familiar.... I'm also trying to find a good online weather service to create a portrait weather widget. There are better ones that are html only which I would like to try and adapt for qbw. The html widget from Yahoo is good. Is there a way of running html code on the desktop?