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Originally Posted by mishmich View Post
Not attacking it - there is nothing there to use now, and it sounds like it is unlikely there will be anything of interest to anybody other than hardware vendors, developers and hackers (unless a developer or hacker produces something that might be of interest to somebody who wants to use it). What have I misunderstood?
Your misunderstanding lies in your assumption that TMO is here only for you, your own interests, your own needs... Imagine, TMO also hosts various developers who might be interested in, or even working on the MeeGo project, developers who, together with users and tinkerers, make the TMO be such a nice community and provide other users with goodies that keep making their devices even more awesome than they really are, dispite the total lack of interest from the manufacturer and sole beneficiary of the said devices. And then you go telling them that they are, basicaly, incompetent and that there has been no result of their efforts, even tho you seem not to know the first thing about MeeGo to be able to judge on whether the work done on it has merits or not.

And you don't stop there, you go as far as collectively calling each and every developer unprofessional if they refuse to work in, or switch to environments they don't find worth the interest, or they don't find them to be 'the right tool for the job', or... By your standards a professional developer can be equated to a prostitute, and even most prostitutes will refuse their service if they find the client repulsive. What gives you the right to judge a whole group of people you know nothing about? Developers are not trained monkeys, they are human - they have their preferences, they have their opinions, they might even, god forbid, hold some ideals... Just because you can't seem to understand that doesn't make them any less professional.

And lets not forget various users, non-developers here who might be interested in having the MeeGo project succeed and thus either give a life extension to their aging, abandoned by the manufacturer devices, or produce them a device in the future that fullfills their needs. If I put my user hat on, I have every interest in seeing MeeGo succeed and no interest at all in having a WP7-like world. If I wanted a WP7-like system, I wouldn't be typing this on my N900, I would've got the iPhone long time ago. As a user, not a developer!

Originally Posted by mishmich View Post
If I can't use it, then it is of no benefit to me. Not ignorant, pragmatic.
And yet again you go about your egocentric point of view. The world does not revolve around you and whether you can understand and/or use something doesn't say anything about that 'something'. In the past several pages of this thread you've been doing nothing but bashing MeeGo without having a clue what MeeGo is - instead you're presenting your own misconceptions about it as a fact. You've been expressing the concern of an end-user, yet you not only fail to understand that different users need different things, you go as far as to claim that you know what a professional developer is and downright discard other people's work based on what you consider valuable.

I'm sorry, but each and every argument you're presenting here is flawed and self-centered, and repeating them in different wording borderlines with tautology.
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