ok latest information before if i went into xterm and ran the widget it would create the widget fullscreen in an invisible stacked window. now since the latest update it seg faults when trying to run it. has anything changed that could cause these affects? some info i didnt state in first post. The widget was working fine on my desktop before the update. updated with the cssu update and when it restarted the widget no longer shows? By the way i am the developer of the widget this is why i am so interested i do not mind if i have to make futher changes to my application to get it working but i think some other apps may experiance problems with the same issue. what ever it is.