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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
While that may be true; if a company knows that they're being pirated - Apple, Adobe, Windows inclusive - they're gonna have the stance of "Fine. Sooner than later, they will pay."

Adobe's Warnock has stated as much about Photoshop - 1 million or so licenses, way more than that out there. Sure, people could use GIMP, some shops have switched almost wholesale to that if they don't do print.
I will not disagree with this. Unfortunately, the way things are today, selfishness is a virtue. I look forward to a world in which we all cooperate together instead of compete with one another. But for that to happen we are going to need help from above because I don't believe we have it in us to accomplish that by ourselves. Still, I can't get myself to become sympathetic to the ones that are part of what is wrong with this world.


Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
But as it stands, it's a difference of mentality that people are arguing about when they talk about Windows, its ecosystem, and Linux and its ecosystem.
Absolutely.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
It's not about being dependent on any thing; if you need help with Fedora, you might have to pay Red Hat. If you need help with Maemo, you might have to wait for Nokia or this community to help you. If you need help with Microsoft products, you might have to pay for that.
Actually, with free software, if I need help with one program I have the option of looking for help someplace other than from where it originates. That is the beauty of it. Of course, that help may not be free, but at least I can always be guaranteed to have a way to keep a product alive.

Look at what is happening right now with the free parts of Maemo. We are now back to getting regular updates thanks to someone in the community that decided to pick it up. So far he is refusing payments, but if the community, or an individual person of company desires to do so someone could be hired to do the same. You can't do that with a closed source product that the originator has decided to kill or stop maintaining for some reason.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
In all instances, you are dependent upon something other than yourself if it is out of your scope of ability and/or expertise. To say otherwise is true folly.
I agree, but as mentioned above, one at least has the option of looking for a third party to pick up the slack. Not so with a closed source product.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Linux is a free way to get a lot done. When you need very specific help, it sometimes sucks that there isn't a centralized place for help - but there's a lot of good natured folks that know a hell of a lot more than I.
And there are lots of knowledgeable people willing to offer a hand for a price as well.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
And Microsoft is so damn full of bugs, the centralized place for help became a necessity - and something of a crutch... still wasn't enough so I became a MCSE to resolve my own probs and be able to help others.
Noble intentions. Unfortunately, I am sure you were never given access to the code and given the opportunity to fix the bugs you might have found. Right? As an MSCE you were thought how to click your way into the implemented features and exposed interfaces, but not into the hidden APIs, code hacks, and plain old error codes that may lie beneath.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
But as it stands, both directions (FOSS vs. closed source) end up feeding our addiction to gadgets, computers and Internet.
This is a profound statement that, frankly took me aback. I agree that they are both symptomatic of a lot of what is wrong in the world today. We could take it even further and argue that all phones, gadgets, and computers in general are evil due to the harm that is being done to the earth and humanity by producing them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6L7hAx7NaM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqxENMKaeCU

It is sad to think of the unimaginable fortunes that have been amassed by corporation executives and share holders who have benefited from the work of the lowly workers of the world without adequately compensating them. That is just wrong. The injustices and mismanagement of the Earth are certainly coming to a climax. Serious issues for sure. Everyone would do well to meditate on them and see how much a part of it we are and how will we be able to justify our conduct as individuals to future generations. Certainly, as a collective, there is no justification.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
What Linus had in mind was basically the same as what Gates had in mind... a simple way to use a pile of silicon to make life a bit easier. Gates went about it in a very "buy out your competition" manner whereas Linux became a community way to avoid being what Microsoft had become - full of bugs, license unfriendly and ultimately something that was used to go into corporations almost like a trojan and build dependency.

But in the long-term, they both serve our needs and addictions.
I don't know what intentions they had. It seems to me that Linus looks quite honest when he says he was "just having fun". The fact that he chose to license his kernel with the GPL may have just been opportunist though. I agree with that. And Gates is just a product of the capitalistic culture, with all its ugly warts and thorns. They are both geniuses at what they do. They both produced tools that can be tremendously helpful and that can be used for evil or twisted purposes. It is up to each one of use to decide which one to use. It is up to each one of us to decide what we do with them.
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