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	Capt'n Corrupt	2011-03-03 , 17:57
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Originally Posted by Copernicus

Honestly, still confused here. Point one: today's Unix user need never touch a command line. Most OS X users don't even know what "bash" is.

Point two: POSIX is merely a standard describing one method for how to interact with an OS. You can build an OS to be POSIX-compliant without forcing the user to use the OS in that way. For example, Windows is POSIX-compliant via Microsoft's Interix package.

Point three: both iOS and OS X run on top of the Mach kernel. iOS may have a radically different interface than you'd expect from other flavors of Unix, but somewhere deep underneath there, the heart of a Unix system is beating...

Quite a bit of assertions for someone that is confused. Generally, individuals ask questions for clarification

. But I can appreciate that you're trying to win an argument.

I'm not sure I can simplify this further, but I will try:

Yes, Unix is beneath iOS. But the user interface is certainly not Unix, is quite far removed from it, and heavily tied to iOS. So saying that people are 'learning unix' takes a bit more than a stretch. Put another way: using iOS would not make you more proficient with Open Solaris, nor would it with Ubuntu, or even the common Unix denominator between these OSs.

So I'd say confidently, that using iOS is learning how to use iOS. I would raise the same arguments for Ubuntu, but since the CLI is available, and the FS is exponsed (users/permissions/etc), etc, I would say that there's a degree *more* 'Unix learning' there, than with iOS.

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