This is a problem with people in west especially northeuropean I would say. Also many Americans who always now's what is best because the rest of the world is just idiots if they dont agree Android is the "only way". Possibility is this is because: * We have no real war * We have no problems with tsunamis, Earth quakes atleast not in northeuropean) * We are not hungry 24 hours a day. Thats why we have to whine how bad Maemo/Nokia and Meego is. But as an northeuropean I have too agree: TMO is so damn full of stupid threads with same discussions over and over again. And yes I am also those who may have started those stupid flamewars... But it really is time to rethink. I mean sometimes I wonder why I really is on this forum when 95% is just whine.