Well, it sounds like folks here have some high hopes for the future of nav products on Nseries devices. That's encouraging.

And I'm reminded even as I am complaining about it that the business model for nav software on other Nseries devices -- I also have an N95, for example -- is the same. Map data is there, but actual navigation costs.

If someone wanted to buy the N810 now for the navigation capability -- part of the reason I wanted it -- I'd advise them to stick with the N800. It's not worth it for a built-in GPS -- at least not now.

But, YES, there are lots of other reasons to grab an N810....

-- Mike