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CrashandDie	2010-01-21 , 23:52
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Originally Posted by Jaffa

Excellent, cool stuff. I can give you access to mwkn.net and the box running on it. Source code control in gitorious? Or garage project?

Git most probably, however I'd like to get a pretty decent base before we a/ show it to anyone b/ start distributing the code. I know, "release early often", yada yada yada. It's just that I have barely enough time to work on it as we speak, so having to go through people's patches (no offense anyone) really isn't something I have time for. Does two weeks from now sound AOK?

Originally Posted by Jaffa

Initial roughness is fine, but as the (sub-)editors' enthusiasm drops off, the tools being trivial to put together an issue, and expand on the captured information is key. This is why I included some example macros for doing common things (such as linking to a user profile and expanding their name).

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Jaffa

Not quite so sure about this. It seems we've got a good scattering of contributors and they'll be open during the week to suggestions; and can see the #mwkn hashtag on Twitter to decide whether to Tweet/submit something @mwkn.

Fair enough, but I was more thinking of a "In case you missed this" contribution. The tool should be able to spot if the link is part of a thread on tmo that has already been submitted, or mailing list of a twitter post that was already published two weeks ago. By applying an "importance" ratio, it would come up in a specific rank of the "things for editors to check out". Just a thought, might be an idea when we start running properly.

Originally Posted by Jaffa

The key for contribution, IMNSHO, is making sure that the high-calibre contributors don't have to waste any time to put something into the submission queue, to make it available to a (sub-)editor during the collation of an issue on a Sunday evening. If they see something worth sharing (such as Quim's post about fMMS and frals) they can do it with just one or two clicks from within their browser. Whether that's Twitter clients like Echofon, or bookmarklets for opening a "recent posts to maemo-developers" window.

Agreed, but this should be as much of a priority for "high-calibre contributors" as it is for normal contributors. If we're going to make it easy and quick, let's give everyone access to that benefit.

This really is a focus for me, I want to have editors and contributors not feel like this is a burden. Anything that can be automated or processed should. Everything that causes repetition is bad, will cause mistakes, and will either anger people or make them lose their motivation.

One last thing: Karma. Do we want to include support for it? For example, threads that are selected in MWKN get an extra karma point? I know, weird question coming from me, as I am very much opposed to karma as a whole, but the community likes it, so if there is a use-case for it, we might as well support it.

Edit: PS: I'm still living in a hotel, need to find a flat, a car, get my driving license converted to an Oz one, get a bank account, get credit history transferred, get credit cards, bla bla bla bla bla. So, confer my first point up above in this thread, saying that I don't have a lot of time, I'm really not pushing it.

Last edited by CrashandDie; 2010-01-21 at 23:54.

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	Jaffa	2010-01-22 , 11:05
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Originally Posted by CrashandDie

It's just that I have barely enough time to work on it as we speak, so having to go through people's patches (no offense anyone) really isn't something I have time for. Does two weeks from now sound AOK?

I'll hold you to that ;-)

[qutoe]Agreed, but this should be as much of a priority for "high-calibre contributors" as it is for normal contributors. If we're going to make it easy and quick, let's give everyone access to that benefit.[/quote]

Absolutely. I did mean that all official contributors were high-calibre :-)

This really is a focus for me, I want to have editors and contributors not feel like this is a burden. Anything that can be automated or processed should. Everything that causes repetition is bad, will cause mistakes, and will either anger people or make them lose their motivation.

+1,000,000,000.2

One last thing: Karma. Do we want to include support for it? For example, threads that are selected in MWKN get an extra karma point? I know, weird question coming from me, as I am very much opposed to karma as a whole, but the community likes it, so if there is a use-case for it, we might as well support it.

Having an API with which we could write a karma aggregator seems useful; but perhaps something for phase 2?

Edit: PS: I'm still living in a hotel, need to find a flat, a car, get my driving license converted to an Oz one, get a bank account, get credit history transferred, get credit cards, bla bla bla bla bla. So, confer my first point up above in this thread, saying that I don't have a lot of time, I'm really not pushing it.

Sounds like fun :-)

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